MyBB

I'm thinking maybe this should be an option? If you've got MyBB on a local network, you may not have it open to the world as such, or even still - there might be policies/situations where you can't do this?

Chris might be right... none of my local setups would connect to Google's CDN. I remember suggesting this a while ago, and your response was that you couldn't trust Google 100% to provide them. Has this changed?

Chris Boulton wrote:

I'm thinking maybe this should be an option? If you've got MyBB on a local network, you may not have it open to the world as such, or even still - there might be policies/situations where you can't do this?

You're right, but in the long run all the projects are doing it, it seems like. It reduces the MyBB footprint in both size, number of files, and bandwidth. Plus google's servers are going to be much more uptime then anyone elses. In fact, I would bet money that they would never go down. Redundancy ftw.

In fact, the whole point of a forum software is to host it online as you will want to create a community for it. If this isn't the case, then you're either developing or testing which requires a working internet connection anyway. There are features like version checking and the MyBB Mods & Plugins pages within the ACP that all developers and all testers should have working access to. If not then they're not working in the environment they should be.

@Tom, then you're setup isn't configured correctly?

No. Permissions from our network won't allow them and management won't allow those to be changed (incurs massive licencing costs @ £745 per computer, and at 200 PCs, that's not good). I'm sure others will also have some problems with switching to Google, such as those PCs which aren't connected to the internet.

I'm all for reducing the size, but another approach would be better. For example, provide the core with the scripts from Google but provide an option to turn them to local files. If the option is switched, it should check that they exist - if not, then point to them a wiki page that explains how to use that option.

Tom Moore wrote:

No. Permissions from our network won't allow them and management won't allow those to be changed (incurs massive licencing costs @ £745 per computer, and at 200 PCs, that's not good). I'm sure others will also have some problems with switching to Google, such as those PCs which aren't connected to the internet.

You're kidding right? What kind of stupid network blocks... google?

P.S., in case you haven't noticed but no one is going to realistically run a bulletin board software that's not connected to the internet.

I'm all for reducing the size, but another approach would be better. For example, provide the core with the scripts from Google but provide an option to turn them to local files. If the option is switched, it should check that they exist - if not, then point to them a wiki page that explains how to use that option.

If you can't connect to google, then there's no way you can connect to the MyBB wiki.

I think this should be an option.

As i have had google not load for me a number of times and other sites load. Also say you have a site in Australia Google CDN does not have a AU server i do not think so it could slow the site down.

Chris R wrote:

I think this should be an option.

You're not qualified to suggest that. You don't know how it works, do you? First of all, after it's loaded the first time the browser cache's it, so it doesn't need it again. Second, if we add it as an option then we remove the WHOLE point of this feature: The point being remove the stupidly big prototype.js and scriptaculous.js, effects.js, dragdrog.js, and controls.js from the jscripts folder. In addition it also lowers the bandwidth on the site and since it's coming from google the chances that it's already cached are going to be a lot more likely since a lot other sites and software are now deploying it this way as well.

As i have had google not load for me a number of times and other sites load.

That would be your ISP's DNS. That is neither here nor there and it's definately isn't a problem with google or with MyBB.

Also say you have a site in Australia Google CDN does not have a AU server i do not think so it could slow the site down.

Anything coming from google is going to have a faster response then anything you've got. Besides we're talking milliseconds here, not seconds. Your concern is arbitrary to this discussion.

Applied in changeset r4710.

Now that it is rejected, the files removed in r4683 onwards should be readded. This is what causes bug #694.